AAMFT Podcast



The AAMFT Podcast is an all-access pass to the latest news, developments, and thought leaders in the world of systemic therapy. Hosted by Dr. Eli Karam, it strives to relate, educate, and innovate one episode at a time. The episodes explore topics that relationship-based therapists care about, and features unique conversations and interviews with established experts. The show provides information and education on direct practice and emerging trends in the MFT profession. 

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Episode 1: Sue Johnson, Part 1

January 24, 2019 • 37 minutes 

Sue Johnson is the creator of Emotionally Focused Couples and Family Therapy. In part one of Eli’s interview, Sue recalls how her upbringing in an English pub affected her relationships with her parents and community, and established her comfort level with interpersonal drama and emotion. Sue explains her mother and father’s stark differences in parenting and the effect her mother’s preference that she become a hairdresser had on her eventual career choice. Sue shares the secret for working with aggressive people.

Episode 2: Sue Johnson, Part 2

February 21, 2019 • 41 minutes 

In the second part of Eli's interview with Dr. Sue Johnson, they continue their discussion of the "person behind the model." Sue talks about the lessons learned from her first marriage and reflects on 30 years of marriage with her second husband. She shares the epiphany that led to the development of EFT, and tells a story of a time when two-thirds of the room walked out of her conference presentation at the mention of it. Later, she contemplates what she wants EFT to accomplish and how she'd like MFTs to use their societal influence to educate the public on understanding love relationships.

Episode 3: David Schnarch

March 8, 2019 • 63 minutes 

David Schnarch is a world-renown sex and marital therapist. Eli sits down with David and talks about his career and influence on the field. He discusses how failures led him to come up with the crucible approach, and the revolutionary idea that sexual problems are predictable and normal. He considers the essential qualities a therapist should have to effectively practice sex therapy, touching on how his own openness enables his work. David shares his biggest influences and makes a surprising prediction of the path of the next innovation in systemic therapy. Finally, he talks about his next project of utilizing brain-based therapy with high-risk couples.

Episode 4: Tracy Todd

March 22, 2019 • 44 minutes 

This episode’s guest is Dr. Tracy Todd. With years of experience as an MFT and the current CEO of AAMFT, Tracy and Eli discuss the future of AAMFT and the new programs we are introducing to benefit the advancement of the profession. He describes how MFTs can benefit from mixed-reality simulation training, new Topical Interest Networks, future-building events like the Leadership Symposium, and the Disruptive Innovation Challenge. Tracy shares how AAMFT’s new initiatives allow us to stay current and continuously evolve within the growing field and highlights the significance of providing opportunities for members to become involved and engaged with their profession.

Episode 5: Shelly Smith and Jennifer Labanowski

April 5, 2019 • 63 minutes 

In this episode, Dr. Eli Karam sits down with Shelly Smith and Jennifer Labanowski to discuss Online Therapy. Online Therapy is one of the most requested topics for discussion in the MFT profession. In this podcast, you will find out the factors that led Shelly and Jennifer to pursue this career after first being skeptical of this type of therapy. They will discuss the four areas of research to know before starting your own online therapy practice like stating up to date on state regulations and some of the ethical implications associated with online therapy . Find out why clients seek out this form of therapy over face to face and what might lead a therapist to choose this form of therapy. Eli dives in to find out more information about online therapy from experts in the field.